Recently, we published an article about how a scammer stiffed crypto enthusiasts out of over $100 000. After the voice chat where the guys uncovered the essence of the scam, Denis Denisenko held two more podcasts with the fraudster. There he answered many interesting questions. You can read the details of their two-hour conversation in this article in just 5 minutes.
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In the previous voice chat, you mentioned that you were making $250 spins. As we found out, you scam affiliate marketers for big money. However, you mentioned that you only scam bad people. The money revolving around you would surely attract many good people to build a strong team. Why do you always work alone? Maybe sooner or later, you scam everyone, regardless of how "good" they are.
I just don't trust anyone, so I always work alone. I believe that anyone I trusted would eventually betray me.
Why do you lose all the money you gain through scams at the casino?
I do it to cleanse my karma. After acquiring the money, I gamble it away at the casino, thus sending it into space. It's my mission.
Why do you cleanse your karma through the casino specifically? Perhaps you should consider donating this money to, for example, orphanages?
They'll be squandered there by the same fat cats as me.
What about providing targeted assistance, for instance?
I used to do that. I had a team that distributed groceries to low-income families. But they became so brazen that they didn't want to do anything except wait for my help.
What percentage of the money obtained through scams do you lose at the casino?
I keep a little for myself, just enough for a good life. About 75% I give to the universe.
How much money, in your opinion, is sufficient for a good life? $25 000 a month is quite sufficient. What do you spend that money on?
Clothing and food. I eat a lot — I can devour 2.5 kg of kebabs in one sitting, and half an hour later, I'm back at the fridge. I don't really need anything else — I live very modestly.
Why do you have such an appetite?
It's due to my health problems, which landed me in a psychiatric hospital. I try to eat less, but it doesn't work. Doctors say that if I don't stop, I'll be in trouble in a year.
If I understood correctly, $25 000 a month is 1/4 of the amount you scam people for, right?
No, I have other projects that generate income for me. It's an offline business in the service sector.
How much money do your offline projects bring you per month?
€2 400 passively, as I'm solely an investor there.
How much did you invest in these projects?
Around €30 000. But that was 6 years ago, so I've already recouped everything there.
Let's return to your gambling addiction. Can you disclose the amounts of your biggest wins and losses?
Firstly, I haven't been playing in casinos since mid-June. It simply became uninteresting to me. My biggest win was last year — in one day, I earned $100 000.
How did you use that money? Did you wager it and lose it again?
No. The universe doesn't operate that way. If you've lost ill-gotten gains, they've gone into the cosmos for the purification of your karma. If you've won in the casino, it's purely your profit, meaning those are already clean funds.
Rules of Scamming by Andrei Pankov
Denisenko from Voicea mentioned that he practices the following method to attract traffic to crypto offers. He finds buyers who pour traffic. According to him, he has a whole network of affiliate networks for this purpose. He sells the generated traffic to a broker or advertiser through a left Telegram account.
If the traffic is of good quality, the broker settles fully for it, while Pankov keeps his percentage, and the remaining money goes to affiliates. If the buyers send low-quality traffic, the broker buys about 7-10% of the total amount. Andrei doesn't settle with buyers for such traffic, as he believes they cheated him.
There are rumors in the affiliate marketing community that Pankov also scams brokers. After finding buyers who bring in high-quality traffic, he operates honestly for a while. Then, he asks the broker for a prepayment to scale up, and once he receives it, he disappears. This way, he scams both brokers and webmasters simultaneously.
He denied these allegations, stating that he never cheated any brokers.
Can you disclose the maximum amount you haven't paid to buyers for low-quality traffic?
The largest sum I haven't paid to a single buyer is $8 000. Essentially, it's peanuts, but considering there are many such people, the total amount can become substantial in this circle.
Have you ever encountered situations where people you cheated attempted to retaliate?
Anyone I deal with as far as retaliation goes must be a fraudster or a scammer. Who would dare to come to me to settle scores?
You live in the European Union. Essentially, everything related to crypto scams is a criminal offense there. Aren't you afraid that one day they'll come after you?
That's impossible because I inform specific law enforcement agencies about certain things. Thanks to my actions, for example, the operations of affiliate networks like Neogara were halted.
How did that happen?
It's quite simple: I called the Kazakhstan Embassy and reported them.
Conclusion
After Andrei Pankov left the voice chat, a representative from the Magnum affiliate network took the floor. She revealed that her CPA network had worked with Pankov. The last deal with him involved a payment of $30 000 to the scammer, after which he disappeared.
Besides all the trash and negativity that arises from dealing with Andrei, one can draw some conclusions. The character discussed in this article has a deep understanding of crypto and people. He professionally tricks affiliate networks and webmasters, earning substantial money from it. Pankov is a unique scammer who openly and unashamedly talks about his exploits. It's very difficult to determine the proportion of truth in what he says.
Perhaps someone has encountered Pankov in their work. We would appreciate it if you shared your experience in the comments of this article.
